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	<description>Contained in this blog are my thoughts, essays, and ramblings about feminism and how it relates to roleplaying games. Updates on weekends about every two weeks.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Oh Goddes, My Goddess by While !Finished &#187; Are Female-Oriented Communities or Publications Sexist?</title>
		<link>http://dovearrow.wordpress.com/2008/03/10/oh-goddes-my-goddess/#comment-105</link>
		<dc:creator>While !Finished &#187; Are Female-Oriented Communities or Publications Sexist?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] the internet in general. I find this personal account of a man playing a female character to be continually interesting in that regard.  This entry was posted on Monday, March 2nd, 2009 at [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Killing Us Softly in 4E by dovearrow</title>
		<link>http://dovearrow.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/killing-us-softly-4e/#comment-104</link>
		<dc:creator>dovearrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 23:39:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for commenting on my blog. I am actually quite familiar with the original cover planned for the &lt;em&gt;Player&#039;s Handbook&lt;/em&gt;. I also know quite a few people who think that the current image is better. Personally, though, I prefer the previous cover, because while it may not be the epitome of female power, at least the female character in that image looks strong and ready to kick ass. That said, I would never argue that just because one image might be marginally better than the other that it makes the one image good. I think both images have problems, and I think that&#039;s something that should be discussed.

Incidentally, it is my understanding that the reason Wizards changed the cover artwork had nothing to do with the female character. Rather, it was changed because several European distributors thought the male tiefling would bring up old stereotypes about the game being associated with devil worship. As such, I think it&#039;s difficult to argue Wizards was trying to appease those offended by the portrayal of the female character in the original cover artwork, since that wasn&#039;t the reason they changed the artwork in the first place.

As far as your comment about the female character on the front cover of the PHB not being white, I should like to point out that neither is the image on the front cover of Mirabella magazine. That image was created from the features of six models from a variety of ethnic backgrounds. Nevertheless, I think you would find that if you gave either woman blonde hair, blue eyes, and fair skin, they would not look at all out of place. 

In any event, the primary focus of my blog entry isn&#039;t about the character&#039;s ethnic background (whatever that may be). Rather, the primary focus is on the portrayal of women in Dungeons &amp; Dragons fantasy artwork as a whole, and how that portrayal resonates with the points raised in Jean Kilbourne&#039;s movie. If you think that the exclusive portrayal of women that only represent 5% of the population in media and advertising isn&#039;t a problem, or that the sexualization of violence towards women in media and advertising is fine, or that portraying women of color as animals in media and advertising isn&#039;t a societal comment on their supposed lack of humanity, then I would say we have something we can legitimately disagree on. However, let&#039;s just be clear on what it is that we&#039;re disagreeing about. That&#039;s all I&#039;m saying. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for commenting on my blog. I am actually quite familiar with the original cover planned for the <em>Player&#8217;s Handbook</em>. I also know quite a few people who think that the current image is better. Personally, though, I prefer the previous cover, because while it may not be the epitome of female power, at least the female character in that image looks strong and ready to kick ass. That said, I would never argue that just because one image might be marginally better than the other that it makes the one image good. I think both images have problems, and I think that&#8217;s something that should be discussed.</p>
<p>Incidentally, it is my understanding that the reason Wizards changed the cover artwork had nothing to do with the female character. Rather, it was changed because several European distributors thought the male tiefling would bring up old stereotypes about the game being associated with devil worship. As such, I think it&#8217;s difficult to argue Wizards was trying to appease those offended by the portrayal of the female character in the original cover artwork, since that wasn&#8217;t the reason they changed the artwork in the first place.</p>
<p>As far as your comment about the female character on the front cover of the PHB not being white, I should like to point out that neither is the image on the front cover of Mirabella magazine. That image was created from the features of six models from a variety of ethnic backgrounds. Nevertheless, I think you would find that if you gave either woman blonde hair, blue eyes, and fair skin, they would not look at all out of place. </p>
<p>In any event, the primary focus of my blog entry isn&#8217;t about the character&#8217;s ethnic background (whatever that may be). Rather, the primary focus is on the portrayal of women in Dungeons &amp; Dragons fantasy artwork as a whole, and how that portrayal resonates with the points raised in Jean Kilbourne&#8217;s movie. If you think that the exclusive portrayal of women that only represent 5% of the population in media and advertising isn&#8217;t a problem, or that the sexualization of violence towards women in media and advertising is fine, or that portraying women of color as animals in media and advertising isn&#8217;t a societal comment on their supposed lack of humanity, then I would say we have something we can legitimately disagree on. However, let&#8217;s just be clear on what it is that we&#8217;re disagreeing about. That&#8217;s all I&#8217;m saying. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Killing Us Softly in 4E by lollerkeet</title>
		<link>http://dovearrow.wordpress.com/2008/04/06/killing-us-softly-4e/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>lollerkeet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Dec 2008 14:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You seem to be desperately reaching for something to be offended by. To correct some points about the PHB cover:
- She isn&#039;t white. Had you looked at the woman, you would notice she is mixed anglo-african.
- She wouldn&#039;t have been hit had the dragonborn swung his sword. She would have been knocked behind him be his arm (she is beside him, which is different to in front).
- There is nothing to suggest that the dragonborn isn&#039;t also female.

You would be even more upset to see what was planned as the PHB cover (http://1d4chan.org/images/6/6c/4theditionOPHB.jpg). Not only is she neither European or African (there are other races, you know), but she is guarding her male companion. I&#039;ll leave it to you to decide if her breasts are of a politically correct size.

What the PHB cover does imply, and you completely fail to mention, is that rather than standing behind the meat shield, the artist has placed her beside it. A completely out-of-genre situation, which can be explained one of two ways:
1. The artist has taken pains not to offend easily-slighted women by having her in a position no fragile arcane character would ever willingly be (compare to the original cover).
2. She is an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You seem to be desperately reaching for something to be offended by. To correct some points about the PHB cover:<br />
- She isn&#8217;t white. Had you looked at the woman, you would notice she is mixed anglo-african.<br />
- She wouldn&#8217;t have been hit had the dragonborn swung his sword. She would have been knocked behind him be his arm (she is beside him, which is different to in front).<br />
- There is nothing to suggest that the dragonborn isn&#8217;t also female.</p>
<p>You would be even more upset to see what was planned as the PHB cover (<a href="http://1d4chan.org/images/6/6c/4theditionOPHB.jpg)" rel="nofollow">http://1d4chan.org/images/6/6c/4theditionOPHB.jpg)</a>. Not only is she neither European or African (there are other races, you know), but she is guarding her male companion. I&#8217;ll leave it to you to decide if her breasts are of a politically correct size.</p>
<p>What the PHB cover does imply, and you completely fail to mention, is that rather than standing behind the meat shield, the artist has placed her beside it. A completely out-of-genre situation, which can be explained one of two ways:<br />
1. The artist has taken pains not to offend easily-slighted women by having her in a position no fragile arcane character would ever willingly be (compare to the original cover).<br />
2. She is an idiot.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gaming is Not a Genetic Trait (Part II) by Tommi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tommi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also some studies that indicate the following: Suppose there are two groups of students, A and B. (Boys and girls, long and short people, red-haired or not, ...). If teacher assumes that A are better than B, then A will fare better than B.

So, if teachers assume boys to be better than girls at maths, then boys will, in general, fare better than girls.

From what I remember, girls do have a higher average and lower variation, so that there are more boys who are really good or really bad at math. This all applies in Finland, maybe elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also some studies that indicate the following: Suppose there are two groups of students, A and B. (Boys and girls, long and short people, red-haired or not, &#8230;). If teacher assumes that A are better than B, then A will fare better than B.</p>
<p>So, if teachers assume boys to be better than girls at maths, then boys will, in general, fare better than girls.</p>
<p>From what I remember, girls do have a higher average and lower variation, so that there are more boys who are really good or really bad at math. This all applies in Finland, maybe elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gaming is Not a Genetic Trait (Part II) by dovearrow</title>
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		<dc:creator>dovearrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the link. You don&#039;t happen to know the name of the study do you? I&#039;m curious because as I stated in my blog, the research I looked at stated that men&#039;s scores are both higher and lower than the highest and lowest scores of women in math. I&#039;d therefore be interested to know if men still have the lowest scores overall, or if that gender disparity has also disappeared in this new study.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the link. You don&#8217;t happen to know the name of the study do you? I&#8217;m curious because as I stated in my blog, the research I looked at stated that men&#8217;s scores are both higher and lower than the highest and lowest scores of women in math. I&#8217;d therefore be interested to know if men still have the lowest scores overall, or if that gender disparity has also disappeared in this new study.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gaming is Not a Genetic Trait (Part II) by diningphilosophers</title>
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		<dc:creator>diningphilosophers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 05:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi--
This analysis is interesting. However, you&#039;ve made the assumption that there is something to the idea of innate mathematical talent being more common in men than in women. For this reason, I wanted to bring the following article to your attention:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/n/a/2008/07/24/national/w110029D40.DTL&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Math study finds girls are just as good as boys&lt;/a&gt;. The upshot of this recent study is that the imbalance in mathematical ability which was found 20 years ago is no longer evident in the results on standardized math tests in even high-school aged public school students. The effect seems to have vanished, which forces one to conclude that it was not biologically based in the first place, as a change in such a short time span would be improbable in that case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi&#8211;<br />
This analysis is interesting. However, you&#8217;ve made the assumption that there is something to the idea of innate mathematical talent being more common in men than in women. For this reason, I wanted to bring the following article to your attention:<br />
<a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article/article?f=/n/a/2008/07/24/national/w110029D40.DTL" rel="nofollow">Math study finds girls are just as good as boys</a>. The upshot of this recent study is that the imbalance in mathematical ability which was found 20 years ago is no longer evident in the results on standardized math tests in even high-school aged public school students. The effect seems to have vanished, which forces one to conclude that it was not biologically based in the first place, as a change in such a short time span would be improbable in that case.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The Black Cauldron and the Goddess of Fire by Magic Items of Feminine Power &#171; Dovearrow&#8217;s Blog About Feminism &#38; Gaming</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magic Items of Feminine Power &#171; Dovearrow&#8217;s Blog About Feminism &#38; Gaming</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] the Beautiful). I have already discussed this story at some length in a previous entry (see The Black Cauldron and the Goddess of Fire). In this entry, I will present two new items of feminine, magical power from this story that can [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Gaming is Not a Genetic Trait (Part II) by dovearrow</title>
		<link>http://dovearrow.wordpress.com/2008/05/06/gaming-is-not-a-genetic-trait-part-ii/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>dovearrow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 13:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for commenting on my blog. I&#039;m glad you enjoyed my entries on this subject. Meanwhile, I would be honored to have you link to my blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for commenting on my blog. I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed my entries on this subject. Meanwhile, I would be honored to have you link to my blog.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gaming is Not a Genetic Trait (Part II) by lizzard</title>
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		<dc:creator>lizzard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brilliantly done - again, thank you. I&#039;d like to link up to this tomorrow with some commentary from the FeministSF blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brilliantly done &#8211; again, thank you. I&#8217;d like to link up to this tomorrow with some commentary from the FeministSF blog.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Gaming is Not a Genetic Trait (Part I) by lizzard</title>
		<link>http://dovearrow.wordpress.com/2008/04/21/gaming-is-not-a-genetic-trait-part-i/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>lizzard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 07:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quick response...

This is great. Thanks for writing it up. Onward to part II...</description>
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<p>This is great. Thanks for writing it up. Onward to part II&#8230;</p>
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